So What’s the Deal With The Moon?

So much of what we’ve been told about our celestial neighbor is open to question.

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I am an unabashed fan of Ancient Aliens on the History Channel and I was recently fascinated by their episode speculating that the Moon is an artificial object placed into orbit deliberately to monitor life on Earth, presumably by a higher intelligence.

What struck me about this episode is that I am somewhat familiar with some of Gurdjieff’s writings, and I was always intrigued by his cosmological theory that human energies serve as “food for the Moon.”

There is obviously a tendency to take this metaphorically, perhaps seeing the Moon as an archetypal image which correlates to human activity in some esoteric way, but what if there was actually a literal correspondence between these two fantastic ideas?

Gurdjieff also claimed to have seen a map of ‘pre-sand’ Egypt and worked as a guide at the Pyramids, asserting that he had been initiated into the mysteries by the priests.  The story of the moon fits into a cosmology that he presented which seemed far fetched until our recent trips into space.

In the Ancient Aliens episode, there are some interesting assertions that support the artificial moon theory; there seem to be NASA images with spires or obelisks visible on the lunar surface, NASA crashed a module onto the moon which caused the moon to “vibrate” like a gong and it happened again for a longer period, causing some to wonder whether the moon is metallic and hollow. Buzz Aldrin and other astronauts have seen flashes of light on the moon. 

The program also claims that some ancient texts mention a time before the moon was there. (These are in addition to the points brought up when I questioned AI about this matter – see below). In his travels and studies, it is likely that Gurdjieff also encountered some of these ancient references to a time prior to the moon.

I decided to consult my friend Claude, the AI, who seemed well versed in both the Gurdjieffian concept AND the Ancient Aliens theory.

What did Gurdjieff mean when he said we are "food for the Moon?"

Gurdjieff's concept of humans being "food for the Moon" is part of his esoteric cosmology and spiritual teachings. This idea is complex and open to interpretation, but I'll provide a brief overview:

In Gurdjieff's cosmology, he proposed that there is a universal "ray of creation" that emanates from the Absolute (the highest level of reality) down through various levels of the cosmos. In this system, the Moon plays a significant role as the last "station" in our particular branch of this ray.

When Gurdjieff says we are "food for the Moon," he's suggesting that:

1. Human beings produce certain energies through their lives, emotions, and activities.

2. These energies are "consumed" by higher cosmic processes, including the Moon.

3. This energy transfer is part of a larger cosmic economy or ecosystem.

4. Unaware or "unawakened" humans unconsciously feed this process, while those who become conscious can potentially redirect these energies for their own spiritual development.

It's important to note that Gurdjieff often used shocking or puzzling statements to provoke thought and challenge conventional understanding. This particular idea is not meant to be taken literally, but rather as a metaphor for complex spiritual and cosmic processes.

This concept ties into Gurdjieff's larger teachings about human consciousness, self-development, and our place in the universe. It's part of his attempt to explain why humans often seem to live in a state of "sleep" and how they might awaken to their full potential.

I was wondering about this in the context of several theories including by Russian scientists that perhaps the Moon is an artificial body placed here deliberately by a higher intelligence.

I see. You're connecting Gurdjieff's esoteric concept with more recent theories about the Moon's possible artificial nature. This is an intriguing intersection of mystical philosophy and fringe scientific speculation. Let me provide some context on these ideas:

1. Artificial Moon Theory: Some researchers, including a few Russian scientists, have proposed the idea that the Moon might be an artificial construct rather than a natural satellite. This theory is often referred to as the "Spaceship Moon Theory" or "Lunar Wagons Theory."

2. Key proponents:

   • Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov: Soviet scientists who published an article in 1970 titled "Is the Moon the Creation of Alien Intelligence?"

   • Isaac Asimov: While not a proponent, the famous science fiction author explored this concept in his story "The Artificial Satellite."

3. Main arguments for artificial Moon theory:

   • The Moon's size and position relative to Earth and Sun, which enables perfect solar eclipses

   • Unusual characteristics of lunar craters and the Moon's composition

   • Perceived anomalies in the Moon's orbit and density

4. Connection to Gurdjieff's idea: If one were to entertain both Gurdjieff's concept and the artificial Moon theory, it could lead to speculation that the Moon was intentionally placed to serve some cosmic purpose, perhaps including the "harvesting" of human energies as Gurdjieff metaphorically described.

These ideas exist at the intersection of mysticism, fringe science, and speculation. While they can be fascinating to explore, they aren't supported by current scientific evidence. However, they do reflect humanity's enduring fascination with the Moon and our place in the cosmos.

Are you aware of any ancient texts that speak of a time before the moon existed?

Yes, there are indeed some ancient texts and traditions that speak of a time before the Moon existed or appeared in the sky. This concept, sometimes referred to as the "Moonless Earth" or "Earth without Moon," appears in various cultures' mythologies and ancient writings. Here are a few examples:

1. Greek Mythology: Aristotle and Plutarch both mentioned a belief held by the Arcadians that their ancestors lived in a time before the Moon. The Arcadians called themselves "Proselenes" which translates to "before the Moon."

2. African Folklore: Some African tribes, particularly in Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo), have legends about a time when there was no Moon in the sky.

3. South American Traditions: The Chibchas of Colombia and some Peruvian cultures have myths suggesting that in ancient times, the Earth was moonless.

4. Babylonian Texts: Some interpretations of Babylonian creation myths suggest a period before the Moon's creation.

5. Hindu Texts: While not explicitly stating a moonless period, some Hindu texts describe the Moon's creation as separate from and after the Earth's formation.

6. Chinese Mythology: Some Chinese myths speak of a time when there were 10 suns but no Moon, until later events led to the current arrangement of one sun and one moon.

It's important to note that these references are found in mythological and religious contexts, not scientific texts. They often form part of creation myths or stories about cosmic rearrangement. Modern science does not support the idea of a recently moonless Earth, instead positing that the Moon formed very early in Earth's history, about 4.5 billion years ago.

These ancient accounts of a moonless Earth are intriguing from cultural and mythological perspectives, but they shouldn't be interpreted as historical or scientific records. They do, however, reflect how different cultures have tried to explain cosmic phenomena and changes in the night sky over time.

Gurdjieff also mentioned the Moon in his magnum opus "Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson," also known as "All and Everything." In this version of Gurdjieff's cosmology, the Moon is described as a growing celestial body that hasn't yet reached its full development.  Gurdjieff suggests that the Moon is gradually evolving and may eventually become a full-fledged planet.

This theory contradicts the Ancient Aliens’ idea that the moon was placed into our orbit by another intelligence to monitor the earth, suggesting that it is some sort of natural body on its own evolutionary path.

Still, we never know which of Gurdjieff’s ideas to take seriously and Beelzebub’s Tales also describes beings from other planets that influenced life on earth. 

In any event, there is no doubt that there is far more to the moon than meets the eye, or that NASA has told us.