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Kathy Martens's avatar

" Virtually all of the conversations have been respectful and with ease. " I wish this were the case here where I live in the US. The majority of the people I know/encounter in my area are outspoken liberal or liberal-leaning people. I lean toward voluntaryism and mostly avoid political discussion with my peers because the (often stated) assumption is that Trump is evil and anyone who would vote for him is an idiot, full stop. Any further discussion is not welcomed. I used to think that democracy as we know it was real. Now, I agree with you, Joe, it's an illusion that (my words) is a tool for the controlling of the masses. It's been very difficult and isolating to not be able to have two-way, civil, curiosity-inspired dialogue with people. I wish I could say that I feel as calm as you, Joe. Working on that. LOTS of opportunity for practicing nervous system regulation tools.

Alan Knight's avatar

Great points Joe. If Trump winsand really means what he says then there's a chance of improvement, but if he's not, the decay will continue. Harris is mediocrity, a lightweight, and the prospect if her and the rotten to the core Democrats win, that is not an appealing future for the USA.

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