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Thanks for sharing this, enjoyed hearing Maté's perspective. As someone who has watched many conversations around this issue, people seem to think it's so simple.. trying to find a lynchpin in history that proves things one way or another. But it does not exist. I like that you and Gabor point that out.

I am always surprised by some comments as they don't quite seem to get what you are getting at and instead revert back to the tropes you are trying to point out. Trying to find that singular point that proves someone is right to do something so awful to another. Anyway, thanks for sharing this, I did not know Maté's position on all of this. Seems reasonable and open.

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i've always had an inherent sense of supporting the Palestinians, ever since the 1967 and 1973 Arab-Israeli wars when i saw my parents side with the Arabs against Israel. i would say they were anti-Semitic coming from their beliefs and experiences in their country of origin in Europe which they fled from as the Soviets invaded, with the German's help near the end of WW II.

Going to university in the 70s, i met and made friends with Jewish students, one of whom became a roommate, and i came to see that it was not the people about which the "geo-political conflict" dynamic is really about, but dictators and the CIA trying to run the world, at the people's expense. Still i could not deny my inherent feelings towards the Palestinians over the Israelis -- but only in regards to that arena over there -- the so-called "Holy Land." "What is it," i kept thinking, where i seem to support at some deep level inside myself -- the success of bombings and bloodshed done by the Palestinians during the Intifada, while i have Jewish friends here in my personal life ?

Then as the so-called "asymmetric" nature of the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis became more and more apparent to all who are not completely taken in by the MSM, plus with the sense of extreme brutality and "crimes against humanity" being committed by Israel, can i now say that my long-time feelings of support of the Palestinian cause to have been justified all along, especially too as the public opinion of my peers comes on-side ? To be honest, "No," these feelings seem to exist somewhere else, still rooted in my parent's beliefs. Or were their beliefs rooted in something else too, something even deeper ?

i would say it's essential to make a clear distinction between the powers-that-be and the people who have been caught up in these geo-political conflicts orchestrated by these "powers" since the beginning of history. Like Maté, lots of Israelis have divorced themselves from the actions of their government, just as those who marched in the anti-Vietnam War protests did, as even the American GI's did in the Gulf Wars when they witnessed their part in non-sensical actions against Iraqi citizens who actually were in support of the coalition cause, and as did too the Canadian truckers at Parliament Hill in the face of Trudeau's brutal globalist mandates.

But to me there is something very unique about Israel. In the book by Andrija Puharich, Uri: A Journal of the Mystery of Uri Geller, Puharich describes an event he was instrumental in during the 1973 Arab-Israeli conflict -- where he was in effect part of a channeling situation, enabling a race of ETs to influence the course of the war through the authority had as a human on Earth that the ETs didn't. At one point the Syrian tanks were free from Israeli opposition on the Golan Heights above Israel, and could have easily secured the strategic location for Syria, yet the tank commander inexplicably retreated. Based on Puharich's testimony it was because the ETs were able to influence the tank commander's mind through his own acting as a relay for them. It was likely that Israel losing the Golan Heights would have set a new timeline in motion, one unfavourable to Israel and the ETs who support it.

Personally i have lately been involved in a weekly online prayer circle that originally was part of Robert F Kennedy Jr's election campaign, run by a spiritual leader guiding participants in conventional prayer as well as targeted manifestation procedures. What we seem to be doing is similar to what was related in the 2018 movie, The Trump Prophesy, when evangelicals using directed Christian prayer where apparently able to bring about the unexpected Trump win in 2016. However after RFK Jr gave up his presidential bid and joined with Trump, i've become a bit concerned, even as i continue my efforts with the prayer circle to make RFK Jr's "Make America Healthy Again" campaign successful through Trump becoming President again. i trust Bobby and although i certainly don't trust whatever is behind the Democrats, i feel a Trump win will again be about support for Israel -- in a different way than it has been under Biden. i don't dismiss the idea that there could be different ET elements vying for lucrative power bases on the planet, which could swing one way or the other based on the results of the upcoming American election.

Considering all this, i don't dismiss my undefined feelings against Israel either. How far this goes with the Jewish religion can maybe best be represented by how i feel about Christianity as a religion -- in that it has been hijacked by the Roman Church, from its pure spiritual base and made into a system of control. But Israel is a country, not even a religion per se. It has been however, since pre-history, a highly valued spiritual base on the planet, some say a stargate. Even the Christian mystic, Rudolf Steiner inferred that Judaism was an expected and valued position that needed to be maintained in the coming times, for all of humanity's spiritual evolution. But Steiner never addressed the ET issue, except he did talk about the threat of the Asuras, dark spiritual beings which are alien to the solar system's nature and evolution. So maybe it no longer is any 'geo'-political dynamic, but a galactic or universal one (and maybe it always has been).

i think the best approach in the coming times -- would be to distance ourselves from all religion, the state that we hold citizenship or birth in, even our race -- and think of ourselves simply as human, since it could be that only the significance of being human will capture the true essence of the conflict we are increasingly facing. All the differences we have come to believe are between us, ones that have been encoded in social conventions and institutions, are in danger of being used to divide us. As citizens of this planet, we must hold on to the one identity which can't be used to separate us, and with which we will walk with the good ETs of the Milky Way Galaxy, as equals -- the Human Form.

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